With the LJ Sec it was really easy to bring everything over - I think I loaded 383 entries in 20 minutes, on dail-up!! I'll try to remember the link - I think it was on snapetoy's journal - it was an immense help!

Otherwise, I'll have to figure out where I put that password...

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While I admit I have some entries over on LJ, very few of my stories are posted, so this is really a new effort for me. Thanks for the idea, though! If I go the journal route, it *would* make what I do have that much easier to transfer. *Goes off to look at Snapetoy's Journal*

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That post is about posting to multiple journals at once, so I don't think it'll help you much, IGTOW!

I voted for multiple links, and then saw that Beth had made my explanation for me. *grins*

And what's this 'simple poll' thing? I've seen what you can do with numbers, you wicked woman!

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Shucks on the posting genie. Ah well, I always wanted to reformat all those stories.

Right.

I'm thinking the multiple links is probably how I'll go, although the voting (so far) shouldn't have surprised me. Go figure.

And hey! I put an 'uh-huh' disclaimer on the poll thingie. *mumbles* Everyone knows I can't do anything simply. *G*

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For me personally as a reader, anything you choose is fine, but as a reccer, I don't bother reccing anything that isn't on a publicly accessible, non-passworded site, no matter how much I like it, since I know from long experience that most people won't take the extra steps to apply for a password from a recs page.

And from the perspective of someone interested in ensuring fannish history, I believe in building in redundancy when archiving (especially for long important works like yours). If you go the personal-archive-only approach, all it takes is one disaster with your host's server at a hypothetical point in the future when you're already losing interest in fandom (i.e., when you'd have no interest in re-building a website) and your work will be gone forever.

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An interesting perspective, never much thought about rec's. And it's true, many folk won't bother with obtaining a password.

I'm thinking that if I linked here only to my site, I would continue posting in other places as well as there are too many people out there who really don't like LJ/IJ at all, which is really ironic as I used to be one of them. Which is why I'm thinking the multiple links to several archives might be the best, not only from a 'hedging my bets' kind of way, but also because many people have many ways of wanting to read things and some sites serve better than others. *G*

I hear you about the server failure though, and have always been a bit paranoid in that regard, which is why I've been religious with my site's back-up, and why I also maintain a hidden mirror site as well.

Thanks for the feedback; it was most helpful.

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Hi sweetie! Here's what I think would be easiest. Post a link to TotP, but if you're concerned about how it's not an open option, use your links feature and provide one or more archives where your fics are open (wtp, skyehawke).

I migrated over my whole journal, so all the fics and chapters came, but I'll tell you, I'm not relishing re-doing all the chapter-to-chapter linking and tagging. And now all the links on my sticky post (fic masterlist) just shoot people over to my website.

I suppose in the end it depends on how much time you have to dedicate to the process. The pros and cons tend to balance, and I don't think there's a perfect solution.

Hope you're doing well. Did everything go well with your baby's move?

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Hi there! *hugs*

I hear you, chapter to chapter linking is *not* fun on LJ. I suspect if I went that route, I would just use the tags and let people be inconvenienced. In a way I envy you your open site, but it just wasn't an option for me, not with all the stories I host and all the users I have. Just topped 7,900 the other day and, as I wrote you before, it's just so... huge now.

I also thought about just using the link function, but until I can figure out the css on IJ, I'm not happy with the way it lays out. However, I'll still add them as I update the stories on the other archives. Just finished Epithalalium this evening and will start posting it to WTP tommorow. Can you remind me again why a mass re-editing of HU9E was such a good idea? *G*

Yeah, she's settled happily in her new dorm with all her new friends in her new life; the hubbly, who is just as pleased as she is with what he saw, just returned this evening from taking her to school. He called me his last night there, all upset, and said the hardest thing he's ever done, even harder that leaving her in the OR, was standing on the sidewalk and just watching her walk away. Silly boy... thought he could just drop her off and remain unaffected? I guess it's a good thing he learned better, ya? Anyway, she called today while he was in transit and just gabbed for about a half an hour about absolutely nothing at all and then went about her business. Totally calm, for her, but one could tell... And me? I was doing fine until I found the little 'presents' she left me. I was rummaging around the CD's in the car the other day and found a new one with a note, "Mom songs for when the child is at school." I found another little, "I'll miss you, Mom," on the cover of the portable harddrive I lent her to back up her music before she left. Yeah, I lost it a bit, both times, but I'm kinda looking forward to the finding the rest of them she said she left. When one least expects it.

Otherwise, I'm fine... just busy with trying to get this darn editing done and getting stuff posted to the site.

And you? (Sorry, would leave one of those little heart thingies, but they don't seem to work here.)

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I don't really have anything further to add aside from my vote, but I wanted to tell you your journal looks absolutely gorgeous! Love he layout. <3s I'm very glad you're making the migration!

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Hey there! *hugs*

Thank you! I'm still not done with it - am still messing with the css, but it's just the niggling tweaking remaining.

Yeah, I had to leave LJ; it's just too hostile over there, but I'll still keep wasting server space as long as they'll let me. I still have to migrate the A Turn of the Page site over. Damn! I am *not* looking forward to that. Although moving the journal itself will be really easy, changing every single link on every single story for the reviews is not sexy. Not one little bit. *G*

Howzit going? Howz'it' coming? *wink*

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I agree. LJ is a sad sad place atm. I love IJ - even the hideous orange is growing on me. :D I still haven't got around to retagging all of my entries and relinking stuff - I need to redo my master list and update my "to do" list. It's a pain, but it's worth it. :)

It's both going, and coming well. ;) I've done some preliminary work on it, and I think it's going to be awesome. ;) RL's been very busy (have to find a new job by the end of Sept, had a small car accident, sick and or dieing relatives... ;_; etc) and with the IJ move, net stuff's been busy too, but I'm going to have a lot of time to devote to it after my hp_tarot thing is due on the 10th. :)

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I hear you on the R stuff, although I'm sorry about any family troubles. We sent our daughter off to college, with all the packing and chaos that implies, I had to run the household by myself since the hubbly went with her to the mainland (Massachusetts now has to accomodate her feistiness), and had to deal with a bunch of overtime at work. So, yeah, I really understand.

However, since I've always admired your views on 'awesome', I'll leave you to it. *G* Good luck on the tarot thing.

Oh, and is there any chance that one day, when I get the art reorganized of ATotP, that I could add yours to my very small collexion? I've still got to get Gwyllion's posted, but yours would be lovely there as well. Just let me know.

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Ack, I completely forgot to reply to this! Stuff is so crazy at the moment. ^^;;

I'd be very flattered to have my stuff archived at ATotP! You've got so many cool things archived there, I'd feel honored to be among them. :)

I hope your daughter enjoys college! I know it was a fun time for me, but my mother said it was a huge adjustment for her! I hope stuff calms down for you soon!

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Wunderbar! I'll let you know when I get it posted. It may be a while, so don't turn blue on me, OK?

The child is adjusting. I'm only getting two phone calls/day now and have managed to limit myself to only 2 text messages/day, which was our limit when she was here. So yeah, we're both adjusting all right, I think. Kinda hard to tell when we're in Hawaii and she's in Massachusetts. There's a bit of ocean and a whole country between us. *G*

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*L* take your time! Believe me, I know what a pain archiving is! XD

It must be hard having your daughter that far away! I was only three hours away from home for college and I still got pretty homesick that first year. It's nice that you get to talk to each other so often though! I bet that helps.

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A bit, but I do miss her and suspect I always will, but it's also exciting to see life through her eyes. Makes everything fresh, yanno. *G*

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I am not a fan of posting stories to a community without an alternate location.
You ask why? Because some communities have become incredibly stupid with who is allowed to join and who not e.g. snape_potter

I am not able to read any fic that is posted on there, which makes me sad.

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Yeah, I'd heard that about some of the communities. Shame, really. I only post sporadically to them because I don't often have the time to format for *two* journals when I can barely find time to format *mine*. I've been thinking about posting outside links-only to them, just to speed things up, but am not sure their rules will allow it. Haven't joined any but one here, though.

Take care and thanks!

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Huggles and snuggles you!! I've missed talking to you via email. I agree with Beth. Multiple linking is a good idea, but again, this is why I don't write a lot of fanfic. I'm too lazy to do things like putting it up in several places, or wondering how the heck CSS works and stuff like that. :D

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Hey there! *hugs* Yeah, it's been a while, ya?

Posting to multiple sites used to be a pain in the okole until almost everyone switched over to e-fiction. Which has its good points and its bad, but from a one-stop formatting perspective, is wonderful. I hate filling out the forms, though, but I'm not much for them in RL either.

What would be *really* cool is a posting engine where one could check off the sites of which you are a member, enter all the information in one place and then, poof, with a push of a button it's posted everywhere at one time.

Any takers?

Take care, my dear, and thanks!

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Why would the story posts on IJ have to be flocked? Is everyone going to flock every adult story on all their blogs now?

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God, I hope not, Aucta! I've just posted a bumper edition of the sshp_prophet here on IJ and not one thing was locked. You have no idea how much that pleased me, given how much searching I've had to do for unlocked posts in the past. We also post the Prophet to the Stag and Doe mailing list, and a lot of those people aren't on LJ, so locked posts are a bloody pain in the arse!

Um, just my two cents worth. *gets off soapbox and slinks off*

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To quote the front page of my site:

"In a perfect world, everyone would tolerate and respect other people's preferences and would stay away if they were not so inclined to read these type of stories. However, this is not a perfect world and as such, this site requires password access for my protection as well as yours."

As long as I'm able, I'll keep posting to 'open' archives, but I don't think we'll be able to do that much longer. It's our misfortune that sometime in the last couple of years, someone(s) finally realised just how open the internet is. Doi. And we can't have that, now can we? So now the masses, who remain largely ignorant of what a gem of free speech the internet really is, are only beginning to apply pressure to make *us* take responsibility for the content and access of things we didn't even create. Which is just stupid and very wrong.

And impossible to facilitate because that would mean we'd have to be living in that wonderful, perfect world where we respect each other, and each take responsibility for our own actions, and because we're all so responsible, we take care of our own affairs, and *we* control what *we* view and what our children view, and aren't so lazy we expect everyone else to take our responsibility for us because we can't be bothered with it (although we'll scream bloody murder if we get *caught* being irresponsible), so no one ever gets in trouble.

*Takes a breath*

Unfortunately, we don't live there, do we? Sucks doesn't it? Take care, my dear. Perhaps I'm wrong. I certainly hope so.

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I totally agree that they're a pain! Personally if I'm sharing a story, I'm sharing the damn' thing, not charging admission at a private members only club. Although of course doing that is fine - as long as you don't then advertise the story to all and sundry as if it's available to read. Back in the day that was called bait and switch.

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Fair warning is always a good practice, and I agree. One thing that drives me spare is someone linking their LJ/IJ story on one of the Y!Groups and then come to find out the darn thing is locked and when you friend them, it either never gets reciprocated, or it takes so long you forget about it and go, WTF, when this stranger friends you back weeks or months later. Irritating, ya?

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I don't know about anyone else, but I have few choices but to f-lock my adult material and have ever since I started my LJ in 2003.

I am a licensed professional. Although I'm fairly certain I could ride out the whole sordid 'OMG, you write what?' kerfuffle should anyone discover what it is I do for a hobby, I *would* lose my job *and* my professional standing should a child gain direct on-line access to my adult stories, in a venue over which I have control, and I did nothing to prevent it. While I would be sad to lose my employment, the loss of my career is unacceptable.

So, since 2002, I've password-locked and put 'net controls' on my website for these reasons, because my site is something over which I definitely have full control. Over the years, I've successfully thwarted three legal 'prods' from angry parents over access to minors who lied on age statements to get passwords to my site, so I must be doing something right. That those parents were too f**g lazy to police their kids on-line is another matter altogether; please, don't get me started on *that*. *G*

So yes, I f-lock my adult entries (and will always do so) and I lock my site. When one is confronted head-on with RL legal issues, complete with lawyers talking to each other, (and yes, it's really hands-shaking scary) one pays attention to the details. I survived them, my anonymity intact, only because of the passwords and age statements I require, and that I do *not* host/write chan. Considering the number of hits I get to my site (a bit over 300,000 last month alone from approx. 3,000 out of the 7,900 users I have) I don't think that having a password is as much of an obstacle as people make it out to be.

However, I did learn some things.

If the site is very public and 'generic', like LJ and IJ, playing by the 'rules' generally protects you. LJ once said f-locking your entries was enough for adult material. Now they're going back on their word; enough has been said about *that* issue, so I don't think I need to elaborate. After all, I *am* moving here.

If the site is 'known' to have minors, then playing by the rules generally protects you. So yes, I take the time to edit my stories down to the T or M ratings on FanFiction.net (yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pathetic). And surprisingly, I've survived there as well. Personally, I think some of FF.net's abuse team started working for LJ; the methods sure feel the same, ya? *G*

If the site clearly states there is adult material and requires an age statement/clarification warning before one can read it, then playing by the rules and placing the proper ratings generally protects you. To the best of my knowledge, all the outside sites to which I post, warns the reader that adult material is following. Supposedly, this is enough to protect me because *I* am not directly responsible for ensuring the readers are who they say they are.

So if someone wants to read my stories in a venue that isn't 'locked' they do have alternatives, although frankly, given the current 'moral' climate (at least in the US and don't get me started on *that*, either), I foresee that very soon, all ff archives with adult material will have to be locked just like the pr0n sites, they will have to verify the age of their authors (which is *really* a shame as some of my best authors were underage when I first started posting them), will have to verify the age of their readers, or suffer a legal melt-down into oblivion.

It's a sad world, ya? Take care and thanks for posting.

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I do understand this, and I should make clear that I have no objection to anyone flocking anything (or everything) per se. That's anyone's privilege. I just get irked by people who say "Here's a fic! Come read!" and don't tell you (or tell you in small print) that you have to friend them to read it. It smells too much like blackmail to me. I prefer when people, like you, are upfront all the time about locking stuff down - then I don't feel like I'm being deceived, you know?

(And, of course, this is probably just me and other people are going WTF?)

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Yeah, I do know, and the only thing worse, to my feeble mind, is someone threatening, "Review, damn it, or I'm not finishing it!"

All right, so don't finish it. *G*

And no, it's not just you, although I suspect that won't stop me from saying, "WTF," upon occasion just for the priciple of the thing.

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I voted for links to your journal mostly b/c I'm old school -- I *like* it when author's have their own pages and the same story isn't posted every single place (though I do understand that, logically). I like the personality that comes along w/ reading someone's story on a page they designed.
My second choice would be the multiple links.
And I leave posting to the journal itself last not b/c I care how many chapters show up on my flist, but b/c I'm probably the only person in the fandom who dislikes reading stories on lj/ij. It's almost entirely a personal opinion, and just a little bit b/c you never know when ij will fall prey to the same stuf as lj.

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Hi there! *Claps hands* I am so happy to finally find someone else who owns a journal, but doesn't like reading stories on lj/ij, either. For me it's b/c of the formatting.

I'm thinking multiple links right now, only because the thought of more 'public' exposure to my own site is starting to scare the willies out me. I hear you though about the author's site lending a flavour to the stories and I agree; I like individual sites, too.

Take care and thanks!

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I voted for ATotP and mean that that should be your primary posting place especially as I already have the password.

I hope that you'll continue to post as much fic as possible in unlocked sites too (bearing in mind your security comfort level,) both for "posterity" and for accessability/reviews.

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Yeah, it seems simple when you already have the password, ya? *G*

And I do believe in spreading the stories around to a variety of archives. I'd like to think I have too many back-ups to ever lose all my work, so I post elsewhere just to accomodate where people prefer to read.

Take care and thanks!

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BTW, I don't think I've ever mentioned it, but I do admire your foresighted passwords

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I'm chuckling here. Madly.

Yeah, they do have quite a 'ring' to them, don't they?

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Hi! Friendly Walking the Plank Mod, here. You can't modify a story once you've posted, but when you're ready to upload the newer versions of stories you already have on there, please let me know the titles and I'll delete the old ones and push the others through the approval queue right away. Warning: If you decide to do this, any links you have to the story will no longer work -- you'll have to take the new links and use those. I'm at venivincere at hotmail dot com if you decide to do it. :-)

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Hi there! *Waves*

Your offer is so generous; thank you very much!

Walking the Plank and my site, right now, are the *only* two archives with all the up-dated versions. In thinking on it further, maybe the best compromise is to have one open archive and then my own. 99.99% of all my stories are Snarry. If I link the Snarry stories to WTP and ATotP and my lone LM/HP story to ETC and ATotP, that could work well.

Assuming, of course, I can get ETC to accept my revisions, that is. Talk about frustrating! I guess I'm going to have to write the mods over there to see what, if anything, can be done.

Anyway, take care and thanks!

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FWIW,and I am basically looking at it from a reader's perspective, it can be irritating to want to read a fic and then have to secure a password in order to read it.

I do have a question, though, regarding f-locking and/or passwords: Is that going to be the norm by authors/artists, whose creations are NC17, on IJ, as it is on LJ, even though(hopefully) IJ is supposedly providing a more uncensored atmosphere?

Sorry for the simple-minded question! *g*

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I can't speak for others, but for me, yes, f-locking will be the norm and has always been. It's not a simple-minded question, and it's one I tried explain (at least for me) in some detail here, which btw, is just above in this post.

I understand about the password issue. I suppose I never much think about it as so many sites I go to are locked and there are cookies to make it easier to access. *shrug* Perhaps multiple links *are* the best route.

Take care and thanks!

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Thanks so much for your kind answer! I really appreciated it. I really should have check above for your explanation! Sorry! "Hiding Under the Ninth Earth" was one of my first fics that I read and one of the ones that got me hooked. When I started reading it, I put the initial entries from WTP on my hard drive. (I do that now with everything I want to save!)

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No apologies necessary. I probably shouldn't admit this, but I often skip the comments on other people's posts, too! *G*

I also save stories to my hard drive and, literally, have thousands including some no longer available. When I first found the fandom in 2002, there were several *huge* archives available (some of which are long gone) and I went on a saving frenzy, whether I'd read them or not. I am soooo glad I did now. I figure I'm good for the next 50 years or so.

Thank you for considering HU9E worthy of saving; that makes feel all warm inside.

Take care.

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I know that it's a huge pile of work, but I'm a fan of posting to both a journal and an archive. I wasn't very comfortable with LJ at first and for years I only read on archives. I can imagine there are people who think exactly the opposite.

I do have the password of ATotP and also to many other sites and I'm not too lazy to apply for more passwords/sites, so whatever you decide I'm fine with it.

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Yeah, I know getting passwords is so humbug, but I too have quite a few.

There's a part of me wanting to post the whole mess here, but with almost a million words in 150 chapters to post, many of which will have to be split, it's a daunting task I'm not certain I'm ready to face. I only have about 10% posted at LJ that I could migrate here, hte rest is 3 years worth of work. OK, so I know I'm whining, but I want to write, too, you know.

Anyway, I'm thinking links first and then, if I can find the time, I'll slowly build an archive here as well. Unless I want to stop writing altogether (and Aseneth would kill me if I did) I just can't see any other way.

Take care and thanks!

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I'm in favor of whatever makes your life easier; seems like posting links to ATotP (yes, I have the password!) and archive sites is the way to go. Also, the more places you're archived, the less chance of fic-loss in case things go all repressive over here. Just my two knuts.
Glad to see you here! May I friend?

-Pati

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Thanks! I've been working on the links in a table format just because that's the easiest to update. Then, maybe that mythical someday, I'll be able to post my stories here. I only have one that can be posted in one entry; the rest need to be split.

Anyway, I love getting new friends, so go for it! Take care...

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